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More Athlon news - CPUReview has its 9th comparison of Athlon vs. Pentium III pricing, with the 650MHz Athlon coming in at US$118 under the 650MHz Pentium III. Unfortunately, it's not in the table as I write this, but it is mentioned. ... Ace's Hardware has a perspective on whether or not the Athlon counts as a seventh generation chip. Personally, I'd say it's a 6.5 generation chip, as I think all 7th gen x86 chips will have L3 cache support and L2 cache on-chip. That's so simple, but that's going to be a big thing for performance. It also won't hurt when the Athlon has a chipset that supports next generation DDR SDRAM or RDRAM and 4x AGP. It's those little tweaks that will make a difference. How do I get this stupid thing open? - Having trouble opening your Pentium II or Pentium III case? Check out these links: PII (SECC1) PIII (SECC2) Got more of them? Send them in! Has anyone seen an Athlon case-cracking guide yet? I'll toss these links into the appropriate Processor Specs tables so that you can always find them. Posted
Thursday, November 4 Rob@Geek.com 800 and 900MHz Athlons for sale? - It seems that a couple of websites have started listing 800 and 900MHz AMD Athlon processors for sale. A reader let me know of the ShopUSA link, and further said that they called ShopUSA which claimed that the processors are legitimate 800 and 900MHz Athlons. They are going for US$2199 and $2799 respectively. AMD, when asked by The Register, claimed that the processors would have to be super-cooled to achieve such high speeds and that's what they must be selling. I have to say that it sounds likely that they are using Kryotech or some other cooling method to hit those marks, as the pricing would suggest. Ace's also had some links to a place called Stupidcomputers.com that supposedly had 800 and 900MHz Athlons listed; however, when I tried it out, the links pulled up blank pages. Ace's then mentioned that they thought the links were for Kryotech-based systems as well. So, was the ShopUSA salesperson misinformed (likely) or did some fast Athlons slip out (very unlikely)? 500MHz Athlons = 600MHz Athlons - A reader over at JC's informed the public that after ripping their 500MHz Athlon apart, they found that "600" was printed on the circuit board. Funny. Was AMD low on circuit board parts and substituted or are all Athlons really at least 600MHz? I'm guessing that a 600MHz baseline for the Athlons is not unreasonable, as AMD has been ramping up the speed fairly quickly. Intel chipset to support PC133 SDRAM - EBNews reports that Intel will be releasing a souped up 810 chipset, code-named Solano, that supports PC133 SDRAM in January 2000. Intel's Camino/820 chipset will support only PC100 SDRAM with an extra memory hub on the motherboard. Intel is also rumored to be cooking up a more macho chipset than the 810 that will support PC133 SDRAM. My guess is that this chipset, if it arrives, may support DDR SDRAM as well, unless Intel wants to draw another silly line in the sand. Posted
Wednesday, November 3 Rob@Geek.com Re-open FTC probe of Intel! - Got an e-mail from Warren Steiner suggesting that we bring attention to The Register's call for the FTC to re-open its case against Intel. I agree with that idea. Also, check out FIC's response to Intel's lawsuit posted on CPUReview. Via and S3 team up - S3 and Via have cemented their relationship in a partnership entitled S3-Via Inc. The partnership will develop integrated chipsets for the PC market. Of course, it's also a good way for Via to get some rights to more Intel patents through S3, I'm sure. Check out our late 1998 report of S3's 10-year cross licensing agreement with Intel. Now Via's got National Semi and S3 on its team. Asus Athlon Motherboards - I got word from a couple readers that as well as the UK, US, and Canada, Asus Athlon motherboards are also available in the Phillipines and the Netherlands. I'd have to surmise at this time that Asus has these motherboards stocked around the globe. Now, if they'll just put something on their website about them ... Well, what I did find on the Asus site that really caught my eye was an Intel 440BX chipset board with support for IEEE1394 and no ISA slots. Nice. Overclocking Athlon - HardOCP is going to do a crazy Athlon overclocking review. Check out their first picture of the Athlon with connected dip switch device. Looks like someone took all the resistors off of an Athlon and replaced them with dip switches that can turn the resistance on or off. Nice. Posted
Tuesday, November 2 Rob@Geek.com Asus K7M - I got some responses from readers saying that the Asus K7M is indeed available in the US and Canada. PCCanada.com has a small picture of it on their front page if you follow the Canada link there, but Aberdeen has a much bigger picture on their site (the US link). Thanks to Suijiris and the couple of people who submitted the PCCanada link. As well, BXBoards has a review of the board, with pictures aplenty. Thanks to Edwin for that link. Now if Asus would actually put the board on their own website, maybe we wouldn't have to go through these exercises to get information on it. FC / Socket 370 compatibility - The Register has an interesting examination of why exactly the new Flip Chip processors from Intel are incompatible with current Socket 370 motherboards. The examination concludes that Intel basically did it to sell more chipsets and motherboards. Pretty weak of Intel if that's true. If you have a slot 1 board, don't fear. You can get adapters if you want. DDR vs. SDRAM - Ace's Hardware reports that while standard SDRAM DIMMs have 168 pins, DDR SDRAM DIMMs will have 184 pins and be a different size. It's too bad, but perhaps it's better this way so that people won't mix up their memory. Got to buy another board now. D'oh! Yet another i840 motherboard - fRaUg came through again and dropped me a link to an iWill i840 motherboard. Thanks, and I think I'll stop listing them now, as there appear to be enough of them out there. ChipGeek Software - Added Sisoft Sandra to the mix. It's definitely an interesting bunch of information. Check out our ChipGeek Software section for that and more chip software listings. Posted
Monday, November 1 Rob@Geek.com Asus Athlon motherboard - Thanks to Suijuris for letting us know that the Asus Athlon motherboards are now on sale, and in stock--at least in the UK. Scroll down to the bottom of the page at Scan's website and you'll see that the Asus K7M is listed along with a nice info link about it. So far, the site says that they are not allowed to post a picture of the board. More cowardice by Asus, perhaps? The motherboard is still not listed on the Asus website. Athlon motherboard shortage - I just noticed that NECX has Athlon motherboards for sale and in stock, but they don't have stock of Athlon processors. That would seem to go against the grain of what the media is presenting. Very interesting. Intel situation - EBNews reports that Intel is letting up on their heavy-handed Rambus or die push. On Friday we had a link to another story on the same topic. At the same time Intel is conceding this point, they are still making many angry on a range of other fronts, including suing Via and keeping Athlon motherboard makers in fear. CPUReview posted a letter about Intel written by one of their readers to the FTC. Hopefully the FTC can overlook the minor bugs in spelling and capitalization and see that the point of the letter has validity. Memory prices - Reader Vas pointed us to a link to the interesting industry group called ComputingPower.org. Apparently, Samsung is part of this organization and the sole purpose of the organization is to convince computer users to get the "proper" amounts of memory in their systems--128MB. I must say, I wholeheartedly agree with the spririt of the movement but question the integrity of an industry group with members who sell memory. On other memory fronts, EBNews has a story that claims memory prices are expected to decline soon. They even make mention of the ComputingPower organization. Memory prices at Pricewatch are as low as US$140 for PC133 128MB DIMMs, and as low as US$70 for 64MB modules. It looks like the average prices are just barely $200 and $100 respectively. These prices are about double the average from May 1999, the low point of memory pricing. The last time I checked, PC133 128MB DIMMs were around the $300 mark. Looks like memory prices are dropping. Older Chip Blurbs archived here © 1996-1999 UGeek - All rights reserved.
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